#1159 Re: [osFree] Re: 'E-Mail' Sent to IBM !!
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Alan Duval
Dec 19, 2004
Hi,
As most members seem to dislike the idea of using the Linux kernel or Reactos perhaps you may care to have
a look at Menuetos (www.menuetos.org). It is open source and is made entirely in assembler x86 code with
no roots in Unix or DOS. It features a full GUI with VESA display support, multitasking and internet access and
it fits uncompressed on a floppy.
Regards
Alan Duval
Part 39 - Dec 02 2004
Re: [osFree] Re: 'E-Mail' Sent to IBM !!
#1160 Re: [osFree] Re: 'E-Mail' Sent to IBM !!
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Yuri Prokushev
Dec 19, 2004
** Reply to message from "Alan Duval" <amoht@...> on Sun, 19 Dec
2004 22:44:10 +1100 (AEDT)
> As most members seem to dislike the idea of using the Linux kernel or Reactos perhaps you may care to have
> a look at Menuetos (www.menuetos.org). It is open source and is made entirely in assembler x86 code with
> no roots in Unix or DOS. It features a full GUI with VESA display support, multitasking and internet access and
> it fits uncompressed on a floppy.
Kernel is not so critical thing. And ReactOS not proposed to be base kernel,
but first kernel. From this point of view doen't matter which kernel will be
used for now.
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Yuri Prokushev
Dec 19, 2004
** Reply to message from "Alan Duval" <amoht@...> on Sun, 19 Dec
2004 22:44:10 +1100 (AEDT)
> As most members seem to dislike the idea of using the Linux kernel or Reactos perhaps you may care to have
> a look at Menuetos (www.menuetos.org). It is open source and is made entirely in assembler x86 code with
> no roots in Unix or DOS. It features a full GUI with VESA display support, multitasking and internet access and
> it fits uncompressed on a floppy.
Kernel is not so critical thing. And ReactOS not proposed to be base kernel,
but first kernel. From this point of view doen't matter which kernel will be
used for now.
Re: [osFree] Re: 'E-Mail' Sent to IBM !!
#1161 Re: [osFree] Re: 'E-Mail' Sent to IBM !!
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Tom Lee Mullins
Dec 19, 2004
>
> Hi,
>
> As most members seem to dislike the idea of using the Linux kernel or
> Reactos perhaps you may care to have
> a look at Menuetos (www.menuetos.org). It is open source and is made
> entirely in assembler x86 code with
> no roots in Unix or DOS. It features a full GUI with VESA display support,
> multitasking and internet access and
> it fits uncompressed on a floppy.
>
> Regards
>
> Alan Duval
>
I have heard of and have downloaded ReactOS. It is still in developement.
I tried to install it on an older computer but it was not compatible.
I have tried Linux but could never get it to install. I still have Linux
and might try again someday.
I have never heard of Menutetos. I will definitely check it out. Thanks
for the information.
I will keep trying to get IBM to open source OS/2 Warp. It might be a
futile attempt but I will never know if they will if I do not try.
--
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* * * * eComStation * * * * * * * * * * *
* * the os for the internet generation * *
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Tom Lee Mullins
Dec 19, 2004
>
> Hi,
>
> As most members seem to dislike the idea of using the Linux kernel or
> Reactos perhaps you may care to have
> a look at Menuetos (www.menuetos.org). It is open source and is made
> entirely in assembler x86 code with
> no roots in Unix or DOS. It features a full GUI with VESA display support,
> multitasking and internet access and
> it fits uncompressed on a floppy.
>
> Regards
>
> Alan Duval
>
I have heard of and have downloaded ReactOS. It is still in developement.
I tried to install it on an older computer but it was not compatible.
I have tried Linux but could never get it to install. I still have Linux
and might try again someday.
I have never heard of Menutetos. I will definitely check it out. Thanks
for the information.
I will keep trying to get IBM to open source OS/2 Warp. It might be a
futile attempt but I will never know if they will if I do not try.
--
BigWarpGuy
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * eComStation * * * * * * * * * * *
* * the os for the internet generation * *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * http://www.ecomstation.com * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
osfree.org website not accessible
#1163 osfree.org website not accessible
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jxfsdrivers
Dec 30, 2004
As an OS/2 enthusiast, I take a look from time to time at the
osfree.org website to see the actual status of the osfree development
effort.
I have been trying to take a look for several days now and I always
get a 'server not found' error message.
What happened with the osfree website ? Has the project died ?
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jxfsdrivers
Dec 30, 2004
As an OS/2 enthusiast, I take a look from time to time at the
osfree.org website to see the actual status of the osfree development
effort.
I have been trying to take a look for several days now and I always
get a 'server not found' error message.
What happened with the osfree website ? Has the project died ?
Re: [osFree] osfree.org website not accessible
#1164 Re: [osFree] osfree.org website not accessible
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Kenn Yuill
Dec 30, 2004
jxfsdrivers wrote as follows on 30/12/04 10:21:
>As an OS/2 enthusiast, I take a look from time to time at the
>osfree.org website to see the actual status of the osfree development
>effort.
>I have been trying to take a look for several days now and I always
>get a 'server not found' error message.
>What happened with the osfree website ? Has the project died ?
>
>
I don't know about the project, but an attempt to access
http://www.osfree.org gives the message, "page is moved" with the URL of
http://www.osfree.org/index.php which may be an error on someone's part
or the pages are gone. A search on Google gives the same site.
I checked NetLabs.org to see if it had gone there, but saw only another
porting project for OS/2, which seems to be in an early stage of
development, (It's at <http://elfldr.netlabs.org/> in case the cut &
paste below shows no link).
Linux Personality for OS/2 <http://elfldr.netlabs.org/>
The arch/i386os2 targets porting the linux kernel to OS/2 and create a
Linux personality for OS/2 at kernel level and user level. Hardcore C
developers needed.
--
Ciao,
Kenn
_________________________________________________________
Always act as if life is a joyous journey. - Kenn Yuill
Warp4 FP15 - Thunderbird 0.9 - Firefox 1.0 GA
-oOo-
_____ Quotation for Today _____
Resistance does not mean walls and fences, nonresistance does not mean
open space.
If you can understand in this way, mind and matter are fundamentally
the same.
- Tsu-hsin
_________________________________________________________
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Kenn Yuill
Dec 30, 2004
jxfsdrivers wrote as follows on 30/12/04 10:21:
>As an OS/2 enthusiast, I take a look from time to time at the
>osfree.org website to see the actual status of the osfree development
>effort.
>I have been trying to take a look for several days now and I always
>get a 'server not found' error message.
>What happened with the osfree website ? Has the project died ?
>
>
I don't know about the project, but an attempt to access
http://www.osfree.org gives the message, "page is moved" with the URL of
http://www.osfree.org/index.php which may be an error on someone's part
or the pages are gone. A search on Google gives the same site.
I checked NetLabs.org to see if it had gone there, but saw only another
porting project for OS/2, which seems to be in an early stage of
development, (It's at <http://elfldr.netlabs.org/> in case the cut &
paste below shows no link).
Linux Personality for OS/2 <http://elfldr.netlabs.org/>
The arch/i386os2 targets porting the linux kernel to OS/2 and create a
Linux personality for OS/2 at kernel level and user level. Hardcore C
developers needed.
--
Ciao,
Kenn
_________________________________________________________
Always act as if life is a joyous journey. - Kenn Yuill
Warp4 FP15 - Thunderbird 0.9 - Firefox 1.0 GA
-oOo-
_____ Quotation for Today _____
Resistance does not mean walls and fences, nonresistance does not mean
open space.
If you can understand in this way, mind and matter are fundamentally
the same.
- Tsu-hsin
_________________________________________________________
* TagZilla 0.057 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org
--
Re: [osFree] osfree.org website not accessible
#1165 Re: [osFree] osfree.org website not accessible
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Tom Lee Mullins
Jan 1 5:11 PM
>
>
> As an OS/2 enthusiast, I take a look from time to time at the
> osfree.org website to see the actual status of the osfree development
> effort.
> I have been trying to take a look for several days now and I always
> get a 'server not found' error message.
> What happened with the osfree website ? Has the project died ?
>
I have tried the http://www.osfree.org site but it only goes as
far as the 'page has moved' on a blank page but nothing else.
Perhaps it has gone the way of the FreeOS site?
--
BigWarpGuy
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * eComStation * * * * * * * * * * *
* * the os for the internet generation * *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * http://www.ecomstation.com * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Tom Lee Mullins
Jan 1 5:11 PM
>
>
> As an OS/2 enthusiast, I take a look from time to time at the
> osfree.org website to see the actual status of the osfree development
> effort.
> I have been trying to take a look for several days now and I always
> get a 'server not found' error message.
> What happened with the osfree website ? Has the project died ?
>
I have tried the http://www.osfree.org site but it only goes as
far as the 'page has moved' on a blank page but nothing else.
Perhaps it has gone the way of the FreeOS site?
--
BigWarpGuy
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * eComStation * * * * * * * * * * *
* * the os for the internet generation * *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * http://www.ecomstation.com * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: osfree.org website not accessible
#1166 Re: osfree.org website not accessible
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Thomas Lee Mullins
Jan 3 9:28 AM
--- In osFree@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Lee Mullins" <jerseywarp@o...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > As an OS/2 enthusiast, I take a look from time
> > to time at the osfree.org website to see the
> > actual status of the osfree development
> > effort. I have been trying to take a look
> > for several days now and I always
> > get a 'server not found' error message.
> > What happened with the osfree website ? Has the project died ?
> >
> I have tried the http://www.osfree.org site but it only goes as
> far as the 'page has moved' on a blank page but nothing else.
> Perhaps it has gone the way of the FreeOS site?
> --
>
I have tried it again but get a 'page not found' after
clicking on the 'page has moved' link.
Perhaps they conceded to the 'porting the Linux kernel
to OS/2' group at http://www.netlabs.org ?
http://elfldr.netlabs.org/
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> * * the os for the internet generation * *
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Thomas Lee Mullins
Jan 3 9:28 AM
--- In osFree@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Lee Mullins" <jerseywarp@o...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > As an OS/2 enthusiast, I take a look from time
> > to time at the osfree.org website to see the
> > actual status of the osfree development
> > effort. I have been trying to take a look
> > for several days now and I always
> > get a 'server not found' error message.
> > What happened with the osfree website ? Has the project died ?
> >
> I have tried the http://www.osfree.org site but it only goes as
> far as the 'page has moved' on a blank page but nothing else.
> Perhaps it has gone the way of the FreeOS site?
> --
>
I have tried it again but get a 'page not found' after
clicking on the 'page has moved' link.
Perhaps they conceded to the 'porting the Linux kernel
to OS/2' group at http://www.netlabs.org ?
http://elfldr.netlabs.org/
Hide message history
> BigWarpGuy
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> * * * * eComStation * * * * * * * * * * *
> * * the os for the internet generation * *
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> * * * http://www.ecomstation.com * * * * *
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[Fwd: IBM'S REPLY...]
#1167 [Fwd: IBM'S REPLY...]
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Tom Lee Mullins
Jan 6 6:15 AM
I received this reply from IBM when I asked about open
sourcing OS/2.
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: IBM'S REPLY...
From: askibm@...
Date: Tue, January 4, 2005 5:50 pm
To: TOMLEEM@...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Tomlee,
Thank you for contacting IBM.
We appreciate you writing to us regarding
open source OS/2 Warp.
Product information regarding open source OS/2 warp may be
obtained via the ShopIBM Web site at:
http://www.ibm.com/products
Should you require additional assistance, please contact IBM Direct
at 1-800-426-2255 to speak with our product specialists. They will
be happy to further assist you.
Please note, IBM Direct is open Monday to Friday 8:00 am to 8:00 PM
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Thank you for visiting our site and contacting IBM.
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Name: Tomlee Mullins
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Submitted Date: 01/04/2005
Did you achieve your goal? Yes
Please tell us your experience:
Would it be possible to open source OS/2 Warp? It would show that IBM is
indeed supporting open source projects plus it would give IBM a chance to
eventually drop OS/2 Warp and it support. It would also give those who
wish to continue using OS/2 a chance to do so without having to depend on
IBM and its resources (resources that IBM would probably use elsewhere).
Category: Suggestion
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Tom Lee Mullins
Jan 6 6:15 AM
I received this reply from IBM when I asked about open
sourcing OS/2.
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: IBM'S REPLY...
From: askibm@...
Date: Tue, January 4, 2005 5:50 pm
To: TOMLEEM@...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Tomlee,
Thank you for contacting IBM.
We appreciate you writing to us regarding
open source OS/2 Warp.
Product information regarding open source OS/2 warp may be
obtained via the ShopIBM Web site at:
http://www.ibm.com/products
Should you require additional assistance, please contact IBM Direct
at 1-800-426-2255 to speak with our product specialists. They will
be happy to further assist you.
Please note, IBM Direct is open Monday to Friday 8:00 am to 8:00 PM
EST.
Thank you for visiting our site and contacting IBM.
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Name: Tomlee Mullins
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Submitted Date: 01/04/2005
Did you achieve your goal? Yes
Please tell us your experience:
Would it be possible to open source OS/2 Warp? It would show that IBM is
indeed supporting open source projects plus it would give IBM a chance to
eventually drop OS/2 Warp and it support. It would also give those who
wish to continue using OS/2 a chance to do so without having to depend on
IBM and its resources (resources that IBM would probably use elsewhere).
Category: Suggestion
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* * * * eComStation * * * * * * * * * * *
* * the os for the internet generation * *
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#1168 Re: [osFree] [Fwd: IBM'S REPLY...]
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Daniel Caetano
Jan 6 7:39 AM
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:15:12 -0500 (EST), Tom Lee Mullins wrote:
>>Please tell us your experience:
>>Would it be possible to open source OS/2 Warp? It would show that IBM is
>>indeed supporting open source projects plus it would give IBM a chance to
>>eventually drop OS/2 Warp and it support. It would also give those who
>>wish to continue using OS/2 a chance to do so without having to depend on
>>IBM and its resources (resources that IBM would probably use elsewhere).
> Dear Tomlee,
> Thank you for contacting IBM.
> We appreciate you writing to us regarding
> open source OS/2 Warp.
> Product information regarding open source OS/2 warp may be
> obtained via the ShopIBM Web site at:
> http://www.ibm.com/products
At least their "automatic subject finder" is working, since it
automaticaly detected the "open source OS/2 Warp" string to use
as an answer. q^=
The automatic e-mail answers are now at "Elisa" artificial
inteligence level! Amazing!
[]'s
Daniel Caetano
daniel@...
http://www.caetano.eng.br/
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Daniel Caetano
Jan 6 7:39 AM
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:15:12 -0500 (EST), Tom Lee Mullins wrote:
>>Please tell us your experience:
>>Would it be possible to open source OS/2 Warp? It would show that IBM is
>>indeed supporting open source projects plus it would give IBM a chance to
>>eventually drop OS/2 Warp and it support. It would also give those who
>>wish to continue using OS/2 a chance to do so without having to depend on
>>IBM and its resources (resources that IBM would probably use elsewhere).
> Dear Tomlee,
> Thank you for contacting IBM.
> We appreciate you writing to us regarding
> open source OS/2 Warp.
> Product information regarding open source OS/2 warp may be
> obtained via the ShopIBM Web site at:
> http://www.ibm.com/products
At least their "automatic subject finder" is working, since it
automaticaly detected the "open source OS/2 Warp" string to use
as an answer. q^=
The automatic e-mail answers are now at "Elisa" artificial
inteligence level! Amazing!
[]'s
Daniel Caetano
daniel@...
http://www.caetano.eng.br/
Re: [osFree] [Fwd: IBM'S REPLY...]
#1169 Re: [osFree] [Fwd: IBM'S REPLY...]
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Davey Brain
Jan 6 5:51 AM
Daniel Caetano wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:15:12 -0500 (EST), Tom Lee Mullins wrote:
>
>
>>>Please tell us your experience:
>>>Would it be possible to open source OS/2 Warp? It would show that IBM is
>>>indeed supporting open source projects plus it would give IBM a chance to
>>>eventually drop OS/2 Warp and it support. It would also give those who
>>>wish to continue using OS/2 a chance to do so without having to depend on
>>>IBM and its resources (resources that IBM would probably use elsewhere).
>>
>> Dear Tomlee,
>> Thank you for contacting IBM.
>> We appreciate you writing to us regarding
>> open source OS/2 Warp.
>> Product information regarding open source OS/2 warp may be
>> obtained via the ShopIBM Web site at:
>> http://www.ibm.com/products
>
>
> At least their "automatic subject finder" is working, since it
> automaticaly detected the "open source OS/2 Warp" string to use
> as an answer. q^=
> The automatic e-mail answers are now at "Elisa" artificial
> inteligence level! Amazing!
> []'s
> Daniel Caetano
> daniel@...
> http://www.caetano.eng.br/
>
Daniel,
It really is amazing since we had versions of Eliza & Animals (2 early
AI examples) working on a stock 2K (that is 2K not 2M) Timex Sinclair
1000 in 1982...
I, too, noticed that this read like an automagic "fill in the blanks"
reply; obviously no human even had a basic input on this or even read
what the thrust of Tom's request was.
WarpDavey
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spouse...any takers?
"Leave the matter of religion to the family altar, the church, and the
private school, supported entirely by private contributions. Keep the
church and the state forever separate." - Ulysses S. Grant
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Davey Brain
Jan 6 5:51 AM
Daniel Caetano wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:15:12 -0500 (EST), Tom Lee Mullins wrote:
>
>
>>>Please tell us your experience:
>>>Would it be possible to open source OS/2 Warp? It would show that IBM is
>>>indeed supporting open source projects plus it would give IBM a chance to
>>>eventually drop OS/2 Warp and it support. It would also give those who
>>>wish to continue using OS/2 a chance to do so without having to depend on
>>>IBM and its resources (resources that IBM would probably use elsewhere).
>>
>> Dear Tomlee,
>> Thank you for contacting IBM.
>> We appreciate you writing to us regarding
>> open source OS/2 Warp.
>> Product information regarding open source OS/2 warp may be
>> obtained via the ShopIBM Web site at:
>> http://www.ibm.com/products
>
>
> At least their "automatic subject finder" is working, since it
> automaticaly detected the "open source OS/2 Warp" string to use
> as an answer. q^=
> The automatic e-mail answers are now at "Elisa" artificial
> inteligence level! Amazing!
> []'s
> Daniel Caetano
> daniel@...
> http://www.caetano.eng.br/
>
Daniel,
It really is amazing since we had versions of Eliza & Animals (2 early
AI examples) working on a stock 2K (that is 2K not 2M) Timex Sinclair
1000 in 1982...
I, too, noticed that this read like an automagic "fill in the blanks"
reply; obviously no human even had a basic input on this or even read
what the thrust of Tom's request was.
WarpDavey
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